500+ Approvals Daily: An Interview About the Realities of Physical Goods Affiliate Marketing in Ukraine
E-commerce is one of the most stable verticals in the affiliate marketing industry across various markets. It's in demand no less than nutra, gambling, or dating. For newcomers, it's an ideal entry point into the niche — you can start working with an affiliate network on a minimal budget.
Today, Palai's guest is media buyer Mykola, who has been running e-commerce traffic for several years. We talked about how to hit 15,000 shipments per month, scale up, and avoid burnout.
Who is Mykola and what is JS Team?
Hey! Tell us about yourself. What city are you from, how old are you? What did you study? Where do you live now?
Mykola, 24 years old, Ternopil, Co-owner of JS Team! I studied Computer Engineering at Khmelnytskyi National University. I got expelled, but eventually got reinstated and picked up that diploma.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
How did you find out about traffic arbitrage? Tell us about your journey in the niche.
The niche had been on my radar for a while. But there wasn't much useful info out there… This was around 2018–2019, when I was living in a student dorm and met some guys who were already running traffic, had iPhones, MacBooks.
Then COVID hit, everyone got kicked out of the dorms and I went back to my village. There was literally zero money, but I had the drive to do something on a laptop. Strange as it sounds, the work found me — a colleague of my mom's mentioned that her son (the owner of our team) was looking for someone to create accounts. And that's how I became the first farmer.
In 2021 I moved to Ternopil, where I was already working as a farm team lead — at peak, the team was producing around 2,000 accounts per month.
At first, traffic was launched purely to test our farms, and there was no real goal to run e-commerce. Back then, Facebook first-bill at $25–30 worked great, there were no holds. We had 1–2 offers in rotation and that was it. Our main focus was on Shop.
Then 2022 came — the start of the war. Everything stopped and no one knew what to do. During that period we did what we could, and that's also when we found and started running the SU project (those who know, know)…
After that came a lot of attempts across different niches as we tried to find our footing. I was still in my fourth year at university, and during that time we started testing e-commerce on Facebook first-bill.
That was a real banning nightmare — anyone who's worked with first-bill knows how much of a headache the launch process is. Instead of launching 1–2 campaigns, you're launching 30–40–100, and the results are hit or miss. Once we learned how to generate a certain volume, the goal immediately became to build a team.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
I was getting kicked out of university for failing to defend my thesis, standing at a bus stop on the route from Khmelnytskyi to Ternopil, calling my buddy (he's now a traffic team lead) — back then he was working at a water delivery company. I told him there's this job opportunity, come on over — he became my first media buyer.
After that, people came and went, only the strong ones stayed, as they say. The next turning point came when PB died for good — that was the end of spring 2023. That period was really tough for us, and we had absolutely no understanding of how to run traffic properly, how to track everything, what metrics we should be hitting, and so on.
We managed to grab a couple of offers and things started flowing a bit, but we still had no overall understanding of how to do it right. We brought in a consult through our own channels from some guys (they're not public figures) who were pushing 1,000 leads daily — we were barely hitting 100–200 at the time. They walked us through their traffic logic and the trick of pulling winners out of the junk (for us that was just mind-blowing).
After getting that intel, we were fired up and started grinding practically non-stop, 24/7. We ran traffic, tested, worked — and six months later, in November 2023, we had a stable 250–400 daily. Now we're at a consistent 600+ approvals per day!
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Did you start out working with e-commerce straight away?
Yes, we never tested other verticals.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
How long did it take to reach stable profit?
We started earning consistently closer to winter 2023.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What's your take on nutra and gambling?
I haven't really worked with those verticals, but they're worth trying.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Specifics of Running E-commerce Traffic in Ukraine
What traffic sources do you use?
Mainly Facebook.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Does FB deliver stable volumes in white-hat e-commerce? Or are there also issues with accounts and holds?
You can run FB consistently, but you need to work 24/7 and build up a large pack of offers to maintain volume. There are always issues — it's Facebook, after all.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What's your average daily spend? Do you use Primebill?
It all depends on the buyer, the offer, and FB's conversion rate. Some do $200, some $400. If the product is there and the conversion rate allows it, you can hit $500–$700 daily! And that's not the ceiling. We don't use Primebill — it's budget only right now!
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Do you only run e-commerce in Ukraine? Why?
We only work in UA — there's still plenty of room to operate here, so we're not expanding further (for now).
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
How do you structure your workflow with offers? Do you find a new one and run it until it dies, or do you work with a large number of products simultaneously?
We find it, run a test, and if the test works out, we buy up everything available in Ukraine and scale to the max. We work with a large number of offers.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What's your average number of shipments per day?
On average, 500+ approvals daily.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What tools do you use? Tracker, CRM, anything else?
We track everything via FB ADS and LP CRM. We also have a TG bot and use UTM tags.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Which delivery service leads in your orders — Nova Poshta, or do you use Ukrposhta as well?
Nova Poshta is the clear leader. We work with Ukrposhta as well.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What ROI have you been seeing over the past few months?
It varies from buyer to buyer — it all depends on FB, the offers, and so on. On average, buyers are hitting 60–100% ROI, but it can go as low as 35–40% or as high as 150–300%.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What about the cost per lead and the confirm rate?
The cost per lead depends on many factors and the overall situation on FB. As for the confirm rate — taking March as an example with 17k leads — it was 80%+.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Same campaign — but this kind of thing happens
Can you share the numbers for your best and worst months? What's the maximum number of orders in a month and shipments in a single day?
Our best month by approvals was March — 17,000. The worst was January — 4,000+. The daily maximum was 763 approved leads (and this month we're already past 850+). Without a solid call center, there's no point playing in the COD space.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Tell us about your experience generating organic traffic on TikTok. Was it a one-off experiment?
TikTok ran for us for 2 months — September and October 2023. I covered it in more detail on my channel. Over those 2 months we generated 228,000 UAH in revenue. The number is insane, because the only cost was time.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Is getting into COD affiliate marketing really as easy as people make it sound in public channels? How much money do you need, and what skills are required?
Let me be straight — e-commerce is not a 2–3 hours a day kind of thing. E-commerce means your hand is on the pulse 24/7 and you're in grind mode 365 days a year.
The best way to get into e-commerce and arbitrage is to start from the very bottom in a team as a farmer and grow from there. That way you gain real hands-on experience without burning through a ton of money on pointless courses.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Tell us about the non-obvious pitfalls of e-commerce
Price dumping, unclaimed deliveries, offers burning out early, Nova Poshta tightening the screws, constantly shifting limits. Bottom line — there are problems every single day, the key is to fix them fast!
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Public presence and lifestyle in affiliate marketing
Why do you run a Telegram channel?
Just to have a place to talk traffic
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Do you run any ads on it?
No ads!
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What's the profit from the voice messages?
I don't make anything from the channel.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
We noticed you offer consulting. Is it a mass-market product?
It's not a mass-market product — just individual cases)
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Do you attend conferences? Which ones have you been to?
I've only been to a product affiliate forum once.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What car do you drive?
Skoda Octavia а5, 2.0 TDI.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Tell us a funny story about a package being picked up or rejected at delivery
We were selling flashlights that had 7 or 8 lighting modes. A woman refused to take it because that was too many for her — she just needed on/off.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What do you think about the fact that info-gurus so often use e-commerce in their ads?
Trusting guys who want to tell you how to make a lot of money working 2–3 hours a day — that's a pretty questionable idea…
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What top teams or solo affiliates in e-commerce do you know who are running serious volume?
I know quite a few, but they keep a low profile 😉
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Plans for the future
Is there a ceiling in e-commerce, or is the growth potential unlimited?
If you build the right team, there's virtually no ceiling.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Has working in the e-commerce/physical products niche become harder over the past few years? Has ROI dropped? What trends are you seeing?
Everything changes: Facebook keeps tightening the screws, more people are entering the niche, and what used to work great just doesn't anymore. The physical products vertical will survive as long as people keep buying things.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Are you planning to launch your own course or any other info product?
No.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
Where do you invest? Crypto, real estate?
I dumped almost all my crypto. Way too volatile — for now I'm investing in myself)
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What's your next big-ticket purchase goal?
Maybe not the nearest-term goal, but I want my own house with a terrace and a sauna.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
What are your plans for the future?
I have plenty of plans, but I'm not ready to share them just yet.
Mykola
co-owner JS Team
We'd like to thank Mykola for pulling back the curtain on what it's really like to work in the physical products niche. The magic "money button" remains as elusive as ever — just another vertical where you have to grind nearly around the clock, seven days a week, if you want to see a decent ROI.
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