$8,000 in MFO Debt — An Interview with a Problem Gambler
With the legalization of gambling in Ukraine, there was not only a massive business boom but also a surge in the number of players. Some of them treat casinos as entertainment, but among online slot enthusiasts, there are many problem gamblers.
Recently, we covered what the problem gamblers registry is and how it works. Today we have a guest — a gambling addict with seven years of "experience" — who will share his story of fighting gambling addiction.
$18,000 spent on casinos, poker, and trading
Hi! Let's get acquainted. Tell us about yourself: how old are you, what's your educational background, what do you do?
Hi! My name is Oleg, I'm 32 years old. I have a higher technical education and currently work as a developer. My hobbies are swimming and playing guitar. Generally, I'm a homebody and spend most of my time at the computer.
Oleg
former problem gambler
Why would someone earning 60,000 UAH a month get into casinos, poker, and trading? What was your goal?
The main goal was to make money online. Even with that salary, I never saw gambling as entertainment or a source of extra income — only as my future primary "job."
Oleg
former problem gambler
How long have you been struggling with gambling addiction?
When I lost my paycheck, I had to find money to keep playing. That's how I got introduced to payday loan companies (MFOs). The last 2–3 years have been a vicious cycle — part of my salary goes toward paying off MFO loans, the rest goes to gambling. And then you take out new loans from other MFOs to cover debts at other MFOs, and to fund more casino sessions.
The debt really piled up in November, during another losing streak when I took out a bunch of loans hoping to win it all back. I could have paid off all the MFOs and still come out ahead, but as always, I didn't stop in time…
Oleg
former problem gambler
Depositing funds into a trading platform account
Do the MFOs call often? Do they make threats?
For now they're only calling me directly. No threats yet, but once they hand the debt over to collectors, there probably will be. I'll be paying off these debts gradually.
Oleg
former problem gambler
Were there periods when things were going relatively well?
There were periods like that, of course. When you've "earned" a year's salary, you think the moment has finally come — you've started "making money" online and everything is going to be fine. But that lasts, at best, a few months.
The more money you have, the higher the stakes. You understand you need to stop, bring the stakes down, but it's hard to do — I never managed to...
Oleh
former problem gambler
What's your plan going forward? You're considering filing for bankruptcy. They say the procedure costs around 80,000 UAH. What exactly are you paying for?
I consulted with lawyers about bankruptcy, but in my case — with a high salary — it won't write off the debts, only restructure them. Yes, it's expensive, and it's not a quick process.
Half goes to the lawyer, the other half to the insolvency administrator. Right now I'm planning to go completely dark on the microfinance lenders and wait for favorable settlement offers. In the worst case, if they take it to court — I'll get lawyers involved.
Oleh
former problem gambler
Do your colleagues, friends, or family know about the problem?
All those years, nobody knew anything. Whenever someone needed money and I didn't have it — I'd take out a microloan. Now I've told my family about the gambling addiction and the debts. It was very hard, but afterwards it gets easier — at least I don't have to lie to them anymore.
Oleh
former problem gambler
Deposits in a poker room
We've read that problem gamblers are advised not to borrow money from people around them. Is that because they need to go through the "cleansing" process on their own?
Giving money to a problem gambler doesn't solve their problems. They'll clear their debts, but once things feel better, the gambling will continue regardless. It can also deepen the problem if the money goes straight to gambling.
Instead of money, you need to find and provide professional help — because overcoming a gambling addiction on your own is extremely difficult.
Oleh
former problem gambler
The Problem of Gambling Addiction in Ukraine
According to statistics, only 700 people have been added to the problem gambling registry over 3 years. In your opinion, how accurate is that figure?
I believe the number of people with this problem is much higher. There are many reasons why someone doesn't register in the registry — first and foremost, it's the fear of judgment, many people don't realize the severity of their problem, and very few are even aware that such an option exists.
Oleh
former problem gambler
Is problem gambling a serious issue in Ukraine right now?
I don't have the data, but I believe problem gambling in Ukraine is far from a minor issue. And the legalization of gambling has only made it worse.
Oleh
former problem gambler
Have you considered adding your own details to this registry?
Like many others, I simply wasn't aware this option existed. But yes, I will be adding my details to the registry.
Oleh
former problem gambler
In your view, is the problem gamblers registry actually useful right now? A person can still go and play at an unlicensed casino or poker room — the only thing they can't do is take out new loans from microfinance lenders.
Yes, at this point the registry is probably of limited use. But as gambling becomes more regulated and both the government and the public take the problem of gambling addiction more seriously, it will likely become more effective.
Oleh
former problem gambler
Do you know anyone personally who is on this "blacklist"?
No, I don't personally know anyone who is in this registry.
Oleh
former problem gambler
How to overcome gambling addiction?
As I understand it, you swore off spending money on casinos and poker many times — but kept coming back?
Yes, past big wins don't let you settle down. And whenever money appears, the urge to try again — to win and stop — inevitably kicks in.
It's been almost 2–3 weeks since the problems with the microfinance lenders started, and the desire to play has faded. But I haven't deleted anything — all the apps are still there. Of course, the urge to play comes up, even for small amounts, but I'm holding on. I'm planning to seek help for gambling addiction, because I already understand I can't overcome this on my own...
Gambling addiction dragged me to the bottom. But I'm glad it didn't reach the worst-case scenario — losing my home or getting into criminal trouble.
Oleh
former problem gambler
How did you realize you were completely pulled into the spiral?
If you're thinking about gambling more and more often, can't control your bet sizes, hide your gambling from others, face financial problems, and can't stop — gambling has probably already become a serious problem for you.
Oleh
former problem gambler
Are you dealing with depression right now? Have you sought psychological help?
I think I've been living in a constant state of depression for the past few years. No, I haven't reached out to anyone yet, but I definitely plan to.
Oleh
former problem gambler
What advice would you give to those who want to start fighting gambling addiction?
You need to admit that you have a problem. Seek support from loved ones, friends, or professionals. You need to control your finances — or have someone else do it. You need to fill the time you used to spend gambling with something else: work, hobbies, video games. And of course, don't hesitate to reach out to specialists for help!
Oleh
former problem gambler
And what would you say to people who have just started gambling but haven't fallen into debt yet?
Treat gambling as entertainment, not as a way to make money. Only play with funds you can afford to lose. Set a clear limit — both on money and on the time you spend playing. Never chase your losses, and never borrow money to gamble!
Oleh
former problem gambler
The problem of gambling addiction in Ukraine cannot be swept under the rug. Take the advice of our story's protagonist to protect yourself from financial and social harm. Treat casinos as entertainment — not as a monetization tool.
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